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Politics and/or Religion (10 Votes)
Yes - Disallow them entirely.  90% - 9 votes

No - But they should be heavily discouraged.  0% - 0 votes

No - They're as valid as any other subject.  0% - 0 votes

No Opinion - I don't care.  10% - 1 vote

Politics and/or Religion
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Post is unread #1 Sep 26, 2009, 6:00 pm   Last edited Sep 26, 2009, 7:00 pm by Samson
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Samson
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This issue has come up over on MudBytes for reasons best left there if you're interested in it. But I figured this would still be good to ask here.

Disallow: As in being made a formal rule to add to the existing rules governing posts here.

And for the record, I voted to disallow. Rather than fumble-finger my way into a null vote this time :)
       
Post is unread #2 Sep 26, 2009, 6:07 pm
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Disallow. We're a MUD site. Not a politics/religion site.
       
Post is unread #3 Sep 26, 2009, 8:23 pm
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Agree completely. I've seen it sour too many discussions (and friendships) at work and other social settings where, as usual, it has no place and was brought up by some idiot that didn't know any better. :rolleyes:

       
Post is unread #4 Sep 26, 2009, 9:49 pm
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What? So I should have put up all those right-wing political comic clippings in my cube at work? :devil:
       
Post is unread #5 Sep 27, 2009, 12:01 am
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Yes, please disallow. No good ever comes from these subjects.
       
Post is unread #6 Sep 27, 2009, 4:48 pm
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I voted disallow. I think I'm done with mudbytes.
       
Post is unread #7 Sep 28, 2009, 2:21 pm
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I voted "I don't care."

If you're going to disallow them, just disallow all mud/smaug-unrelated topics.

There's always something that can be said that will offend someone.
       
Post is unread #8 Sep 28, 2009, 3:14 pm
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Tonitrus said:

I voted "I don't care."

If you're going to disallow them, just disallow all mud/smaug-unrelated topics.

There's always something that can be said that will offend someone.


I think that's the point. I'd rather have mud/smaug related topics only. That's all I'm interested in. If I wanted information on other stuff, I'd visit other forums for that.
       
Post is unread #9 Sep 28, 2009, 9:40 pm
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Samson said:

What? So I should have put up all those right-wing political comic clippings in my cube at work? :devil:


Actually the inside of my cube is covered with comics (xkcd, PhD and Dilbert mainly) :cool:.

But on a serious note, I was actually talking more about idiot bosses who think that during a happy hour they can invite you and your coworkers to freaking bible study in front of everyone. :rolleyes: Talk about putting someone on the spot. That or they solicit who is voting for whom in the next election, whether not they're Christian, you name it. I am so sick of the awkwardness when coworkers and/or bosses ask me about this crap in public. :mad:

Most people understand the boundaries, but some people are just freaking clueless. :stare:
       
Post is unread #10 Sep 28, 2009, 10:09 pm
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Can't say I've ever had a boss invite coworkers to Bible study, but I have had them take an active interest in politics. They actually did give me some wide latitude with that where I worked last, and I was able to convince 3 people to vote in the 2004 election. I never made my positions a secret either, but we also knew when such talk was appropriate and never engaged in it with customers or with coworkers from other departments, even when they tried to initiate it.

The main difference though was that there, at work, nobody bit each other's heads off. It seems on forums that a whole different side of people comes out and any mention of left/right or God/atheism etc triggers flamewars. Which is why it's become clear to me at least that such topics are best left to the forums set up to deal with them. MUD forums are not that place, no good ever comes from it, and you end up with people angry at each other for no real reason.
       
Post is unread #11 Sep 28, 2009, 11:06 pm
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Samson said:


The main difference though was that there, at work, nobody bit each other's heads off. It seems on forums that a whole different side of people comes out and any mention of left/right or God/atheism etc triggers flamewars. Which is why it's become clear to me at least that such topics are best left to the forums set up to deal with them. MUD forums are not that place, no good ever comes from it, and you end up with people angry at each other for no real reason.


Could not agree more.

       
Post is unread #12 Sep 29, 2009, 7:37 am
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Samson said:

It seems on forums that a whole different side of people comes out and any mention of left/right or God/atheism etc triggers flamewars.

There are two main factors, I think:
- anonymity (for many of us)
- lack of face-to-face communication

Something about anonymity makes people drop some civilities, and lack of face-to-face communication makes it very hard to pick up on cues from body language or spoken tone that can indicate the mood of the speaker. A comment that would seem perfectly innocuous in speech can come across as extremely hostile. In other words, when we speak to each other, it's easier to know how something is meant, whereas in written communication, most people tend to interpret others' words not in the others' mindset but in the reader's mindset meaning that a fair bit is lost in translation.
       
Post is unread #13 Sep 29, 2009, 10:16 am
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You have no anonymity, David. I've seen you in person. :P
       
Post is unread #14 Oct 7, 2009, 12:56 pm
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Pokity poke. One final bump before we act on these results.
       
Post is unread #15 Oct 8, 2009, 2:29 pm   Last edited Oct 8, 2009, 2:29 pm by Kayle
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I think it's fairly obvious what the choice is. You can't argue with 9 to 1. Especially when the 1 is just an I don't care.
       
Post is unread #16 Oct 8, 2009, 4:28 pm   Last edited Oct 8, 2009, 4:34 pm by Samson
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Pretty much. And this poll has been running long enough to gather the results anyway.

And with that in mind - the forum rules have been amended as such:

Topics on religion and/or politics are not permitted here. Find another forum to discuss these issues.
       
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