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Post is unread #1 Apr 23, 2006, 1:31 am
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Halcyon
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Everything in the Smaug section is getting completely axed. All the FUSS packages are gone, AFKMud's gone, everything. IMC2, gone. And Samson's not the moderator anymore. What the hell happened?
       
Post is unread #2 Apr 23, 2006, 2:13 am
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It is a long story indeed, the short version as I understand it is that there was an argument ofer the afkmud license before it was changed a few weeks ago.
I personally wish someone could explain why something freely available to be copyed and modified should come with so many stipulations.
I hear microsoft is pushing for a bill that says that once a license agreement is accepted its perfectly legal for the author to scan your harddrive looking for certain files and in some cases spy on the user.
The skype license for instance seems to be half the size of a bible.
I genuinely was interested in the license but it had so many explanations for non technical users as to what this and that means that by the time I got to the license I didn't care to read the rest.
I apreciate Samson's great work, and wish Tich and others would keep his acomplishments in mind before talking smack.
I personally think proprietary code is bad and believe in free software as defined on the gnu linux website.
Unlike some people I know, my copy of windows is legal, I buy registration codes for games online.
The point I am triing to make is that I don't have a problem with developers making money by selling software licenses.
I do think it odd that dicoo darivitives have such a questionable license people have debated ever since it was released.
I also understand that the email addresses are no longer correct, wouldn't that make the license invalid as it makes it impossible to follow the tirms of the license?
I think it requires you email them letting them know your running a dicoo based mud and give them its name and address.
Anyway, sorry for ranting, I just really want someone to help me gain a greater appreciation for licenses in general.
I do not mean to disrespect anyone here in any way, I just need a better understanding as to why I should care about licenses (especially for open source software).
Thank you all for your time.
       
Post is unread #3 Apr 23, 2006, 5:41 am   Last edited Apr 23, 2006, 8:46 am by Noplex
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Software bundled with the GPL license is not "Free." Software bundled with a BSD, MIT, ZLIB, or (some) Creative Commons varient are. You should understand the difference between the two, and remember that the people who are licensing the software are the ones who have spent the man hours designing, implementing, and bugfixing it. When you can appreciate that you will understand exactly why there are all these licenses out there.

Some people wish to share their software in different ways. For instance, you might want to allow people to use your software for any purpose known to man (e.g. BSD, MIT, ZLIB). My licensing is lax minus the fact that I don't want anyone utilizing my code for commerical purposes without obtaining permission from me to do so. The Diku guys wanted to be credited for their work (on the front page of the MUD), and did not want anyone to use it commerically either.

People are different hence why we have all the licenses that we do.
       
Post is unread #4 Apr 25, 2006, 4:34 am
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Halcyon
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...Okay...

Thanks for that enlightening summary, but perhaps I could get something a little more substantial? This is definitely one of those big, "WTF?" things.
       
Post is unread #5 Apr 25, 2006, 7:30 am   Last edited Nov 25, 2007, 7:14 pm by Samson
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The entire issue has been summarized here: http://www.smaugmuds.org/index.php?a=topic&t=1125

There is a lengthy debate still taking place on TMC which should not be difficult to locate.

There is enough information contained in the two threads to figure out what happened, and I don't see the need in rehashing it all here.
       
Post is unread #6 Apr 26, 2006, 4:27 pm
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Conner
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Amen to that. Not that I don't have a stance on this, but it's already quite the ongoing drama in enough places already. *sigh*
       
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