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Post is unread #1 May 17, 2008, 12:57 pm
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Samson
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Some of you may already be aware of this, some of you may not. I've become quite disillusioned with the state of the MUD community over the last year or so. It's rapidly been overrun with trolls, complainers, troublemakers, and people who just generally want to pick fights. I've seen almost no effort to actively contribute to live projects. No efforts being put forth to attempt to elevate things to more modern levels, and a rather disturbing general trend toward an "I want this, someone do it for me NOW NOW NOW" attitude. It's sickening. I've done quite a bit to try and stem the tide against this but one must eventually stop and consider. Is it worth it?

A lot of you have no doubt noticed that in the last couple of months, I've been pretty scarce. What I just mentioned is part of it, but the other part is that I've taken up a serious interest in modding for Oblivion. Yes, the Elder Scrolls game. I find that, at least for now, this is a far more rewarding activity to spend free time on that members of the TES gaming communities appreciate and are many times eager to help out with. The experience has been on a whole far more positive than anything I've seen in the last 5 years with MUDs. I'm sure the fact that they take an active roll in chasing away trolls has a lot to do with it. Mudding seems to be doing exactly the opposite - encouraging them to thrive - which will lead to the eventual collapse of the hobby if enough people leave.

Even if I should become bored with the modding thing, I doubt very much that I'll have the heart left in it to continue doing any serious work with MUDs beyond simple maintenance. There is every possibility that I may decide to turn full control of this site over to someone else, likely to Kayle should he agree later on. But if not him, someone. Expending all this effort only to see nothing but bitching and complaining and sometimes outright personal attacks as a reward just isn't worth it. Thick skin or not, eventually even the most tolerant among us give out after enough damage is done.
       
Post is unread #2 May 17, 2008, 9:56 pm
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Llarn
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You sound down in the dumps Samson :(

Sorry things are not going well for you. I would just like to say THANK YOU
for all the years of contributions you have made to the mud community!

       
Post is unread #3 May 17, 2008, 10:07 pm   Last edited May 17, 2008, 10:08 pm by Kayle
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Kayle
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Well, While I hope I never have to try. I'll do my best to fill his shoes should the time come.

[Edit:] Spelling mistakes.
       
Post is unread #4 May 18, 2008, 11:39 am
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Keberus
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Samson. you're a badass coder. I hope that you choose to stick around and help the community continue to thrive. I, and I am sure many others, would hate to see you go. Thanks for everything you've done, and hopefully, for anything you will do in the future.
       
Post is unread #5 May 18, 2008, 4:45 pm
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I've become quite disillusioned with the state of the MUD community over the last year or so. It's rapidly been overrun with trolls, complainers, troublemakers, and people who just generally want to pick fights.

Welcome to the internet. Every community will have something like this. By all means, there are communities out there with less drama. But at the same time, there are communities with more drama. All of the topics on the frontpage of TMC are productive helpful threads (or ads with no drama in them). I check TMC, MM, MudBytes etc daily and I don't see enough trolling/etc to warrant the community being "overrun". I think you're just overreacting. The community in the last year has more or less stayed the same.

What will happen with Arthmoor?

I've seen almost no effort to actively contribute to live projects. No efforts being put forth to attempt to elevate things to more modern levels, and a rather disturbing general trend toward an "I want this, someone do it for me NOW NOW NOW" attitude. It's sickening.

This is a typical attitude, not just limited to the MUD community. Take QSF for example.
       
Post is unread #6 May 18, 2008, 5:34 pm
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Samson
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Zeno said:

What will happen with Arthmoor?


Nothing. Arthmoor is running fine and I have no intention of stopping that anytime soon. Surprisingly it's one of the few MUD things I'm involved with where people haven't been complaining :)

Zeno said:

Samson said:

I've seen almost no effort to actively contribute to live projects. No efforts being put forth to attempt to elevate things to more modern levels, and a rather disturbing general trend toward an "I want this, someone do it for me NOW NOW NOW" attitude. It's sickening.

This is a typical attitude, not just limited to the MUD community. Take QSF for example.


Too true. Maybe you picked up on why I haven't been keen on doing anything more with it. It does pretty much what I want now, and since nobody is interested in offering ideas or helping to modernize it, there's no need in my spending a lot of time with it unless a bug crops up that needs to be fixed. It's also the same with Sandbox. Nobody seems interested in that either, so it gets next to no attention unless my own blog needs something it isn't capable of yet. The key points to consider here in both cases though is that nobody is spending their time on the forums whining about either of these things not getting any attention or not doing what they want. This only seems to be an attribute of the MUD community as far as I can tell, though admittedly I don't spend a lot of time roaming the internet in general to see otherwise.

The tech forums and gaming forums I do visit aren't infested with this sort of problem. If it's because they're moderated better, then I guess it's working. But I suspect it's because the membership has a wholly different attitude with each other to begin with. I don't see anyone complaining about them being forum nazis for trying to enforce some measure of decency or for making people follow posted rules. Several of them would be described as laxed, even by MUD standards, in how they handle policing their communities. But again, only mudders seem to jump down your throat and accuse you of being a racist, sexist, nazi, Hitler lover, Jew hater, homophobe, or whatever the current slur of the day is just because they disagree with your viewpoint. It's this kind of thing that I'm most sick of, even if it's not all directed at me.
       
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